frp brake pads

hi there i am having real trouble with the brakes on V6 squeeling i was told it could be the wrong pads i have is this true as i would love to get it sorted for duxford .it is so bad it squeels every time you touch the brakes and it is very very loud.thanks lewis

[L8FRP]

Hi, brake squeal is usually due to the incorrect backing plate fitted to the pad (or non at all) prior to fitting in the calliper. PM eldood as he is the alcon guru and carries a shed load of spares for them, im pretty sure he can supply you the backing for the pad for a few quid and guideance on how to fit them.

Hi Lew,

The backing plate does make a huge difference to the noise issues.... if you've got no backing pad, or a thin stick on one then depending on which material your using, the squeal can be pretty severe....

I use a Textar pad exclusively now and cut the backing plate corner off like the original pads... when slightly 'tacked' onto the pistons this usually does eliminate the squeal completely...

pm me if you want a set..

Regards

Chris

How much do they cost Chris.

I supply them at £75 skimmed for new discs or £70 unskimmed for used discs....either way, i still corner off the backing plate like the original pads to cut down noise problems..



Regards

thanks a lot for that al let u know pal cheers

i use sticky back 3m ones off ebay, about a fiver posted and they dont squeel on mine, dont even cut the corners off.

sometimes replace them at the 6th month 'clean' (supposed to be a service but mine dont need servicing anymore) if theyv been pressed solid but not always

I have relatively new Alcon discs & Mintex pads.
Any suggestions to stop the squeel?

Bin the Mintex pads...

Chris, can you put a picture up com what to trim off the anti squeal shim. Those jurid pads have started making a noise. I will pop them back out com Saturday and trim them up. Nearly as loud as the mintex now. ........ Thanks.

El dude wrote:

Bin the Mintex pads...

If I bin the pads will the caliper pistons make less noise
on the discs when breaking lol Seriously what pads
should I put In.
The mintex pads weren't cheap is there nothing I can do?

El dude wrote:

Bin the Mintex pads...

If I bin the pads will the caliper pistons make less noise
on the discs when breaking lol Seriously what pads
should I put In.
The mintex pads weren't cheap is there nothing I can do?

Dogsbody wrote:

Chris, can you put a picture up com what to trim off the anti squeal shim. Those jurid pads have started making a noise. I will pop them back out com Saturday and trim them up. Nearly as loud as the mintex now. ........ Thanks.

Here goes Graham...

here you can see

standard OEM pad with alcons double sided sticky shim... (cut pointing toward from of car)
A Pagid pad with backing plate, which i cornered off...(without detaching the plate!)...
also, a pagid pad with a sticky shim on top of the backing plate cut to the same shape...

don't bother with the stick on shims any more...just source a pad that has a backing plate on, cut the digonal off and then on fitting , wipe over the backing plate with a good qaulity Silicone RTV product (made by Ambersil)... this helps to bond the pad in place and can prevent the annoying drone issue you sometimes get after a caliper service....

That isn't the final word on Pad Squeal tho i think, as this presumes of course that the calipers are working 100% and the pistons are moving freely across the seals etc etc.... (your not still using chrome bar are you..lol )... condition of disc surface also plays a part.... As Jacko points out Regulaly..(lol) the bell and rotor system does seem to absorb the rigidness of the Alcon system up to a point and does run with far less noise problems than the OEM setup.. but after saying that, iv'e not had a peep out of mine for many years now...brakes squeal is a thing of the past for me...

Regards

Chris

[big boy al]

Dr alcon strikes again POW.

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lol...r you going to answer my bloody pm you lazy [profanity replaced]...

just noticed my original wooden block on that picture...lol...few years ago that was...

Thanks Chris,

I will pop the pads out in the morning as it should be dry here, and cut the squeal shims like you have.
The EBC site recommends chamfering the leading edge of the pad slightly. Any views?


Not a lot of room to apply an adhesive to the pads / pistons.
Brand new disks and new Porsche pads. Glad I took 1mm off the pistons.
might just leave copperslip for now

Yes still got some chrome pistons in there.
I popped them out when I put the Mintex pads in to see if there was any corrosion.
Like new still, so they stayed for the time being.
No drone or hum from the brakes, just a load squeal when braking lightly.

Surprised u dont get the hum using copperslip..mayb there isnt enough room yet.lols

El dude wrote:

lol...r you going to answer my bloody pm you lazy [profanity replaced]...

I could ask you the same Chris

Hehe.. Still thinking lol..do u want a nearly new p7000 on it?..c